cut. Best to pour your remaining seal coat in a glass container or you will find it one day glued to the shelf with the dried shellac (personnel experience). There seems to be no dewaxed option besides the SealCoat, and it looks like none of the big home stores even carry that. thanks but a source for shellac flakes, wasn't my issue. I'm sure there are others that folks will recommend: So would someone like to explain to me how to mix my own de waxed shellac. I found some today. But it means when you buy a quart you are getting close to a gallon after dilution with alcohol. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I was surprised by this. I was in a pinch, and was looking to pickup some pre-mixed from a home store, and was surprised by the lack of de-waxed. Start your 14-day FREE trial - and get building. Project can move forward now. I have found that seal coat is not a commonly stocked item at most stores. I'll have to look again when I'm there today. Yup more expensive but I have it now. Nothing about shellac "seals" the wood any better than polyurethane -- but if you want to seal, glaze, then finish, shellac makes the process faster. The blonde shellac is often dewaxed or at least low wax. Zinsser's spray stuff is dewaxed. Zinsser shellac is normally 3 pound cut. The spray cans are non existent around here, I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Both of these products seal the wood equally well, but some finishes wont stick to regular shellac. Rabbeting a shelf; Strength vs. appearance, Editor's Letter: A new tool with every project. Ive been using shellac for over 20 years, but have always mixed my own from flakes. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I've never had any trouble with using Zinsser's regular shellac under oil-based poly. UNLIMITED membership - Get access to it all. To address that problem, Zinsser created SealCoat, a dewaxed shellac, meaning it has the wax removed. But SealCoat is still available at specialty woodworking stores and through online retailers. Granted, it is usually glazed when I do this, and I would bet that the solvents in the oil-based glaze remove waxiness from the surface of the shellac. I've read that they should be sealed with, "I don't want to get into mixing up my own shellac.". I have plenty of that already. Thats why you see SealCoat advertised as a Universal Sanding Sealer on the can. Choose and apply the perfect finish for your project. I have had trouble finding SealCoat. In-depth articles, up-close photography, and detailed illustrations. If youre using oil-based poly or any water-based finish, stick with SealCoat. I'll have to start searching for it. So the only option ends up being the waxed version. 2022 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved. I have some exotic hardwoods here (bloodwood, purplehart, padauk, redhart) that I want to use on some small projects. ACE carries this in-store at several locations near me in quart size. Get complete site access to video workshops, digital plans library, online archive, and more, plus the print magazine. You are using an out of date browser. If you are just wanting to seal, sand the nibs and raised grain, then finish, you might as well just use whatever you are going to top coat it with, especially if you seal it as the last stage of the day's work. Just make sure to use blond or super-blond to avoid darkening the color of the wood. A representative at Zinsser told me that although they are still producing SealCoat, a poor shellac crop has driven the prices up, and many customers have turned to cheaper alternatives. there are three true value hardware stores in your town. If you are using nitrocellulose lacquer or oil-based varnishes other than polyurethane, such as Waterlox or any alkyd varnish, you can safely use the waxyamber or clear 3-lb. However since I was looking for the "Seal Coat" I didn't consider them. Get instant access to over 100 digital plans available only to UNLIMITED members. Finishing Project Guide. I found mine at a dedicated paint store. Now, the spray cans I DID see at the stores. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. somewhere east of Queen Creek, AZ - South East of, http://www.shellac.net/dewaxed_shellac.html, https://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/item/MS-TF.XX, http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=72634&cat=1,190,42942, http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=20030&cat=1,190,42942, http://www.shellac.net/Shellac_ordering_list.html, http://www.woodcraft.com/category/su106-10/shellacs.aspx, https://www.toolsforworkingwood.comMSDS Sheets and Why You Should Look Them Over, http://www.shellac.net/PoundCutChart.html, https://www.toolsforworkingwood.comrove The Shelf Life of Dewaxed Shellac Flakes, https://www.toolsforworkingwood.comhanol, Isopropal, Water, and French Polishing, https://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/blog/363/Shellac Shelf Life -The Followup, https://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/blog/163/Getting Sh, https://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/blog/165/title/Getting Shellaced - part 2, http://www.rockler.com/zinsser-clear-spray-shellac, http://www.truevalue.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&hardwarianState=1&keyword=shellac, DNA from the hardware store works as long as its actually high proof alcohol (85% or better) you can, The shellac.net place lists some types known to be good and also sells some (, Everclear or other 190 proof grain alcohol is similar although more expensive but it doesn't have any denaturing agents DNA has (which some people prefer to avoid), I use mostly the heads and tails from a friends purification process that aren't fit for drinking. Check out WellerMart. Only place I've ever seen sealcoat on the shelves is Woodcraft. Just an addition -- Klean-Strip Green DNA is available at Lowe's around here, is 90% and has served me well. Available around here at Lowes and I think HD. Could it be they were just out of stock when you were there? Not a lot but, probably more than many one man Garage-Mahal woodworkers do. If youre up for it, you can also mix your own shellac using dewaxed shellac flakes. Is there any difference in the sealing properties of Zinssers SealCoat (dewaxed shellac) and regular Bulls Eye shellac? I know there are pre-mixed options out there at the home stores, just never had a need for it. Anyway, I have a project that I wanted to use shellac on today, and due to some time constraints was going to buy some at one of the home stores today, and found out that the only real options are the Zinsser SealCoat which seems to just be a dewaxed #2 cut, and then the regular Zinsser clear Shellac which is waxed. I can order it and have it sent to Home depot ,but you have you buy a six can case to get it. Any reason why there are no dewaxed options at the big stores? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Wish the box stores carried it, but never seen it there. /r/woodworking is your home on reddit for furniture, toys, tools, wood, glue, and anything else that has to do with woodworking as a hobby or profession. Become an UNLIMITED member and get it all: searchable online archive of every issue, how-to videos, Complete Illustrated Guide to Woodworking digital series, print magazine, e-newsletter, and more. Dude is hilariously passionate about shellac. Sign up for eletters today and get the latest techniques and how-to from Fine Woodworking, plus special offers. Shelf life issue? As a result, some stores have stopped stocking it. Get woodworking tips, expert advice and special offers in your inbox. Can I use regular shellac as a sealer instead? You must log in or register to reply here. Start your 14-day FREE trial - and get building! thay do carry both the clear and the blond as well as the spray. Odd, I picked up my last quart can of Seal Coat at Menard's. Please submit links to how-to pages and videos, pictures of beautiful and amazing pieces you made for us to admire, or help you finish. One thing I will mention is after opening the can the first time is do not close it backup and put on the shelf. He sells on amazon too. Thanks everyone for your advise. The alcohol (or something else) has a detrimental effect on the can and it will begin to spring leaks in short order. Is it OK to copy projects from the magazine? If you want to mix your own, here's a place to look. Become a member and get unlimited site access, including the I feel that the extended shelf life of the Zinsser products make then a good value but, I use a fair amount of shellac. Both amber and clear Bulls Eye shellac have a natural waxy substance that interferes with the adhesion of oil-based polyurethane and water-based finishes. That's a good point, I put all mine into gallon size zip lock bags just in case. JavaScript is disabled. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google, Jet-Black Filler Looks Like a Natural Pitch Pocket, Seal With Shellac Before Using Grain Filler, Editor's Letter: Technology and the future of woodworking. Press J to jump to the feed. I've done it quite a few times with no ill effects. Another option is to just use whatever finish you're going to end with as the sealer -- the only reason to use shellac is its rapid drying time.
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