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I have exactly the same problem with my Lewmar Profish 1000. Ed Miller talked me out of a free fall. Great upgrade. The through hull windlass looks sexy but the cons are many esspecially when bottom fishing in 60 plus feet of water. You will spend just as much time up at the front of the boat messing with the anchor with the windlass as you will without. I think they do list it for "just the pro" also, but then maybe it's not as necessary on the regular pro vs. the pro/fish, since no free-fall mode. The anchor locker is just not big enough to hold enough chain and rope, which causes the windlass to jam. apparently it has arrived at home so will put back on next week when back in Perth and fingers crossed, will be good as new (and just in time for cray season ). and the automatic f.f. Just a thought. as the clutch wheel winds in but doesn't tighten, I'm thinking that whatever thread the clutch wheel winds in on my be stripped right at the point that it tension the gypsy wheel. Of course you can also turn off your 50 amp breaker. Is there voltage at the positive switch terminal on the solenoid. 42(1), 55(6), 57(1), 2(1), 3(1), 7(1), 24(1), 25(6), 26(1), 39(2), 42(1), 43(2), 45(1), 52(3), 53(2), 54(3), 55(6), 29(1), 30(1), 31(1), 41(1), 44(1), 48(1), 54(3), Lewmar Pro-Series/Fish windlass ref B10414 iss.1, Manual will be automatically added to "My Manuals", Fishing Equipment Lewmar Lewmar Pro-Sport Series Owners Installation, Operation & Basic Servicing Manual, Fishing Equipment Lewmar CPX Product Manual, Fishing Equipment Lewmar pro-sport series Owner's Manual. Yes there is a clutch pin on the gypsy which you can push in (or pull out) and that will make it a manual drop. Initially I will be putting 250' of rope in the locker and pulling it by hand. I have a lewmar but not the pro fish, I have thought about buying the free fall kit for I found it pretty good on occasion that I have used it but it's a pain having to go to bow a releasing the clutch. 2017 239FS / 250 XB / Rhodan troll motor / Windlass / Hardtop, Thanks , I'm still not sure if I should cancel getting the windless, and just retrieve it the old fashion way. JavaScript is disabled. I've got a Maxwell HRC which I believe is similar to the Lewmar profish in design. I generally have to "unclog" the build up when retrieving. After only 6 uses I am going to have to take it apart and replace the pressure arm, and I have learned a new word "hockle". I have also been advised by the owner of the nearest Maxwell service facility that my problem is likely to recur unless I switch to 100% chain rode, and less likely to recur if I switch from three strand line to 8 plait line. I was going to tell you every thing was great with my pro fish 700 untill I went out monday. It is far and away easier if a F/W member has had similar experiences and can put you on the right track straight off. I guess I will have to get instruction out, hope they installed freefall. If voltage of at least 12.5 volts is present and the motor does not, 8(1), 9(1), 10(1), 11(1), 12(1), 13(1),14(1), 15(1), 16(1), 17(1), 20(1), 54(2), 8(1), 10(1), 11(1), 12(1), 13(1),14(1), 15(1), 16(1), 17(1), 20(1), 2(1), 3(1), 6(2), 23(2), 28(1), 33(1), 34(1), 45(1), 46(1), 51(1), 4(1), 18(1), 24(1), 25(6). With the aux. I hate to think its brushes so soon. The majority of these problems are electrical in nature. The gypsy might require a certain size line to get a bite. Is there voltage at the main output terminal on the contactor. I did this same conversion on my previous boat, a 25' Cobia, and it worked beautifully. A metal shop is fabricating a matching polished plate to cover the hole in the bow and I have mounted an identicle (but longer) bow roller on top. The splice feeds through the gypsy just fine. Now when the winch starts to lose traction I have my decky put a little weight on the control arm (the lever arm that pushes down on the rope & chain in the gypsy). I had a problem with my Simpson Lawrence which seems to work similiarly. Mine came rigged on the boat and the rope is a little unusual not regular silver rope or nylon. The install will require a 3" hole and 4 holes for the through bolts. I'm a fan of the anchor ball. Good luck.Mark. You must log in or register to reply here. The anchor locker on my 2120 seems to be rather small and was wondering if it would hold the 200ft and still have a foot of drop left that the Lewmar tech. Works fine past the splice and through the chain but had one hockle after another as well as jamming. It worked flawlessly in the beginning. I rarely anchor in water over 40 foot in the bay. Good luck with it. I have removed the free fall system as that was giving me a lot of drama. there have been a couple of time where i have anchored and just used the winch to hold it (i think its rated to over 5t so didnt think this should be an issue) and a couple of times where i have had to use a bit of boat and winch grunt to free the anchor- so if this contributed to it im not sure. It doesn't get stuck very hard but I always take a 1/2" breaker bar with me to give it a little turn. has anyone had this problem or know what/ how / where to fix it? I have taken mine apart to replace the. Believe becuase there isnt enough room for the rode to fall. I have a 2017 261 and the through hull windlass is pretty much useless. JavaScript is disabled. Threads probably need to be clean and in good condition, Don't spend all your money on beer, boats, and fishing. His experience of guests hitting the switch by accident and "anchors away" was all he had to say to me as I have kids onboard quite often. Need to find a service center or someone who knows something about the Lewmar Profish series. So far, it has always locked OK after hitting the up button. love it .. the free fall works great . If you deploy 200+ feet of line on the retrieve it will jam, have to open the hatch in the cabin and push the rode down into the locker. notwithstanding the the issue I am currently having, the free fall option for the lewmar has been really good to date so worth considering adding on- as you say, it will save you having to manually disengage the clutch when you want to drop the pick right on a point (especially in deeper waters). I may at some point add a Lewmar ProFish 700 horizontal windlass with free fall. Sounds ridiculous when spending over $2K for an upgrade & you have to "settle" for less - than - desirable operating conditionsbut based on the little research I've done regarding this issue (after the fact! I think a horizontal winch, like the EZ Anchor Puller is the better way to go. With new 1/2" 3 strand nylon, I have had NO problems. I installed a ProFish 700 on my 25 Parker last year. I bought it from Bias boating who have now gone bust so that doesn't help me either! for those that know the lewmar, it winds out and a form of clutch releases so it can freefall out, you then hit the up button and it will wind a side wheel in until the clutch grabs and then up comes the anchor- the side wheel on mine now winds in but just not enough to grab. so sometimes its like trying to use your phone offshore. It's preferable to my, ==============================================, Just try tightening the clutch. at Lewmar he said that the 700 called for 1/2" but that because of 8 plait being a soft rode that 1/2" would get some slippage that 9/16 would'nt. When I put the rachet in I am turning the motor and It is probably more work than pulling the anchor by hand. this cap then winds back in and tightens against the gypsy to allow the rope and chain to be retrieved. the contactor coil ground circuit. I can live with it for a while. Any advice is appreciated. Your windlass came with a tool to tighten the clutch. I had 3 and changed .. also you must use a swivel on the anchor if not you can damage your rode easy. Mark Gilmore Marine in Pensacola under the Bayou Chico Bridge at Daybreak Marina. and yes, tried the manuals and online but hoping someone may have experienced something similar before I start lulling it apart. You can "lock-out" the free fall feature at the windlass if you want to and easily switch it back when you want to; simple in-out lock switch at the windlass. Aside from putting rode into the anchor locker, it isn't very helpful. The 700 is a free fall. The gypsy must go back on with the correct side facing out. If it's not under warrantee, that is cost prohibitive. I spoke to BLA (Lewmar Aust distributors) about the issue and they too werent sure of the cause. Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. anyway, sent it over east to them for any potential warranty claim. It is essential that the proper voltage be, maintained. as soon as i got the cap off, the were bits of its thread all through it. spinning fast, you've got to ride it well. As too unintended "drops", I wired the 12V control voltage to the solenoid through an auxiliary switch (this is the low amp side). Have there been problems experianced with the Lewmar's auto freefall??? He recommended I buy two pressure arm replacement kits; and no, the broken piece is not covered under my warranty. The reason i say this is i took mine off to replace the stipper arm and i put it back on in reverse and it wouldn't retrieve the rope. I have removed the windlass, windlass bracket, anchor roller etc. Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.8 Beta 1. no, it's not the rope type as it has/ had been working fine. mine has never worked, neither the new rode nor the old, EXCEPT at the splice! , Ians winch fix for boat that didnt line up, Welding / Battery Cable Largest Size 95mm 590amp, Hull cleaning of moored boats advice please. I too, reached the point of hand pulling anchors was too much. This was an old post of mine hope it might help. I don't have a problem with clutch slipping but I am having some problems 1) everytime I go to raise the anchor the motor seems stuck. PM Dritchitt for some advice on set up as he has done considerable research. Does anyone have a Lewmar freefall model winch that doesn't work as automatic? Were it not for this windlass I would have no idea what a hockle is. Not enough weight pulling the rope down into the gypsy! A guy at my slip uses an anchor balldon't know much bout that. The free fall is engaged by a pawl, and I think the locking happens by inertia. Great looking install thanks for the pictures..I like the way you did the Starboard. I installed a Lewmar fish pro last year and it had the upgrade already installed. no, I haven't had the gypsy off yet but will probably rip it off this afternoon to see if there is anything obvious. Am looking for some feedback on the quality of this unit. The prob is that, what I will call the clutch wheel, winds in, it just doesn't quite wind in enough to stop the actual gypsy wheel (the one that grabs the rope and chain) from free spinning. The 700 usually is 1/2" rode and 1/4 G 4 Chain. So I gather you're saying the line jumping isn't a problem. You can approximate a power down as 27 Sailfish likes to use, by picking up the anchor a few feet off the bottom, positioning the boat and redropping. You ship it back to Lewmar for factory repair. Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. ); there's not much that can be done. Is there a better fit for the application than a Lewmar ???? Remember to epoxy the openings and allow the epoxy to set up before you install as most boats have cored decks (then apply good caulk to seal things up). Of course, you need to be sure your anchor line is tied off so you don't watch the anchor go bye-bye in deep water. My Worldcat SC266 is just too heavy for me to comfortably retrieve the anchor in a chop when I'm by myself. I have seen pictures on here where they removed the hatch an fiberglassed some starboard in and mounted the windlass there. If not check. Even if the design was wrapped around a windlass there is still only so much room in this size boat, so to increase anchor locker size means encroaching on the interior space. Seamanship, Navigation & Boat Handling, Rules of the Road, Regulations, & Red Tape, Slipping Clutch on SD40 Saildrive and Changing Oil. only thing I would say is a draw back it the remote is little cheesy .. its not a strong signal . Not a big deal. I have one on my 2320 I like it but wish I would had a EZ pull or a Good installed jmho. We have the Profish and had nothing but trouble on our last trip. I will check it out, mine is supposte to be freefall. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. When I talked to the tech. I will talk to the lewmar tech. I have a 2017 239. Thanks. It actually feels like some thing is stuck and it just takes a little turn to loosen it. I do think the free fall option would be good if you were fishing the ocean and fishing in deep water quite often. Check the circuit breaker/, Operate the switch. now this drive cap comes as a single part with the nice RRP of $400. You are blind to everything. I just installed a 700 with 3 strand, no complaints so far at all. I'm hoping someone can explain how the manual retrieve works. apart from the obvious issue, the Lewmar is a really easy bit of kit to pull apart. Tried BLA, who are the Aust agents but they couldn't really help except say to take it to a marine mechanic to check out or send it to them (over east) to look at. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The manual has no mention of this in the troubleshooting. I don't need a boat winch I have a Bardsley its a short stocky semi human about 175 cm tall that weighs about 110kg and built like a Sherman tank that can lift heavy weights like cray pots from 30m and pull up anchors with no dramas trade you anchor winch in for a good mate, Could it be the rope type? Lewmar equipment is not cheap but worth the extra money. Failure to operate or sluggish operation. True. You might want to reconsider the 9/16" 8-plait rode and 10' of chain due to your space limitations and your intended use. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I caused the problem by hitting the down button for too long which engages a pawl and the nut kept winding out until it broke right off. Was debating weather a EZAnchor puller was the answer for my 2120 but I fish reefs alot and need a freefall. JavaScript is disabled. i will be sure to tie either rope or chain off to the bollard in future though to make sure the is no pressure on the winch when anchored- just in case (yes i know this should be done anyway). Boat Repair - Questions,Answers and Suggestions, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Is anyone that is using 1/2" 8plait on a 700 having any trouble with slippage?? I wish now that I had just installed the line puller that is on its way to me and skipped the whole windlass. ? I have the 2120 w/ the lewmar and 300 ' of 8-plait. of chain. The Lewmar is not atrue freefall, you still have to go on the bow and release the clutch. If you are trying to anchor on a very small hump / bump / wreck - you might want to power the anchor down - rather then allow it to free fall. It seems like there must be a way to disengage the motor. I find that if you motor towards the anchor and give it to much slack it happens more often. AT4X versions of the GMC Sierra and Canyon. As stated it will not be directly over the deepest part of the anchor locker and thus the need to hel pit a little. As always, a tradeoff. Actually it has now stopped working completely, more likely electrical. It certainly is not as elegant in appearance as the Lewmar or Maxwell, but it's design is much less troublesome. 1. The Lewmar Profish 700 Freefall windlass was explained to me by the Techs. Without a doubt use 8 plait rode or you will have problems for sure. No problems ever with 2 boat factory-installed Lewmars on 2 boats over 13 years, except replace rode when it gets stiff or worn or hockled or performs poorly or at 4-5 years heavy saltwater use. Manged to fix most stuff and only had to buy a few spares. The proper voltage on a 12 Volt system is 13.5 Volts, constant low voltage will damage, Ensure electrical cable size is large enough to handle the current draw and keep voltage drop within, Check control switches, connections, battery condition, isolator switch, fuse and motor for, Is there a voltage at the input terminals to the contactor and switches. Pensacola Fishing Community and Forum Featuring Helpful Forums, Links, News, and other Resources. i did take off the gear box cover and that is all perfect. Suggest you drop them a note and see what they say. Since freefall is something that can be turned on and off using the tool provided by Lewmar, I got the Profish just to have the freefall option, although I don't usually use it. said was needed. I have the lewmar 1000 profish freefall .Wouldn't buy any less. I had this problem years ago on an older windless. Works easy and nothing to break. I have a pro-fish 700 and love it. A forum community dedicated to Mid Atlantic fishing and sporting enthusiasts. Look for an exploded parts drawing that may be of assistance in trying to find the cause of the problem. BTW found a great price last year on-line at Star Marine Depot - $770 vs list of $1376 - also wire and tinned lugs at Best Marine Wire, I have a Lewmar ProFish and love the free fall feature in certain conditions. This problem is a result of not securing the anchor rode combined with the gypsy drive cap being, slack. You are using an out of date browser. when you fish deeper water you will have to stop every so often to sweeep the line back towards the back of the locker otherwise it will bind up an jam the unit. Location: West Chester, PA - boat lives in Santa Barbara, CA, My Lewmar windlass was shipped with a greased clutch. As bay has saidthere's not enough "drop" available in the anchor locker on the 239 either. My other problem is that the rope or the chain when paying out jumps the gypsy and then just free falls until someone grabs it and places it back on the gypsy. Using the tool, tighten the clutch to where it doesn't slip when raising the anchor but no more. (still better then being on the bow in nasty weather). The biggest problem you will have with the Lewmar is the fact you won't be able to center the hole over the center of the anchor locker. Makes total sense Tomjust wish the dealers can be more up front explaining the drawbacks. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, Repairs, Rebuilds, Restorations, and Customizations. The EZ puller was also 89lbs.not counting the weight of the rode and chain(Quite expensive also) Now looking at a Lewmar profish 700 Freefall. Hi Brett, did you pull the gypsy off the winch prior to it having problems ? I have tried tinkering with it but cant work out how/ if it can be tightened. After reading your cons, glad I have the deck mount. He is a good guy. I do know that my next boat won't have a Lewmar anchor winch. It went from being a rare request to a common request almost overnight. the freefall option on the lewmar 700 and 1000's is an outer drive cap that can disengage the gypsy and allow the wheel to spin freely and the anchor freefall. switch off, the up/down switch is dead. Thanks Rick. This seems to do the trick ok but this shouldn't be required. Anchor rode pays out independently while windlass is not in use. Ours will slip on the gypsy, especially at the braid where it joins the chain. If okay, replace the contactor. I have a 22lb plow on the front. When the 219FS and 239FS were developed a windlass was a rare request on this size boat, so no attention was given to allowing for that set up. I would recommend that you order your rode from Secosouth.com. I'm with you,I know that the extra size of rode will fill the anchor locker even that much more. It's been my experience that you have to tighten the. Tighten the gypsy drive cap using the winch handle and always secure the anchor rode. Oh I see. If not, the switch, Keep the switch activated. A while back, I removed 200' of rope to create more fall into the locker and it seemed to work fine for a good while. Check the voltage at the motor. It's been my experience that you have to tighten the clutch every so often. Come join the discussion about safety, licenses, tips, tricks, piers, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Need a windlass BAD. I also have the remote that makes it so nice to retreive from the front of the boat .. Use 8plait rode.. Have you asked who you brought the winch from for advice or had a look at the web page for Lewmar winches. It will take up more space on the bow, but no line goes down in the anchor locker. independently of the windlass when not in use. Lewmar also recommends 8 plait for the profish 700. 2) how does the manual retrieve work. the gypsy just wont seem to grab and retrieve the rope and chain. No such thing as a service center. Privacy Guaranteed - your email is never shared with anyone, opt out any time. mine just wasnt tightening up and therefore wouldnt allow the gypsy to lift anything and it remained to spin freely. When you find out what the problem is can you post what the problem was so that if any other members have lewmars with the same/similar problems they will know what to look for. I use 20' of chain followed by 1/2" 3 strand - doesn't seem to mind the 3 strand at all. Don't have a solution but out rode is 7 yrs old and will have to be replaced at some point. Most windlasses have a way to engage and disengage and tighten the clutch for free fall vs. electrical/manual operation. thanks mildew..wish i took more pics of the install, all i have are the "after" shots. The teeth on the winch are fine- it just wont tighten. I had an issue with a ProSport and contact Lewmar in the UK via their website Lewmar.com They were very helpful and provided excellent feedback and support. I had to thoroughly degrease it to get it to work, and now I still have to regularly tighten the clutch during use. i had never had the drive cap on or off before and has only been subject to minimal use over the last 18months so how it manged to cross thread i dont know. If you're not getting the trollas long as you know it won't be perfectbeats the hell out of manual haul. It may not display this or other websites correctly. as suspected, when i went to remove the drive cap, i had to use a fair bit of force to manually unwind the cap (which you should be able to undo by hand) and when i got it off, the internal thread of the drive cap had been threaded with metal remaining on the shaft thread that comes from the winch motor (this meant that the shaft thread was still ok which was lucky).

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