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I was one of the original reps for the return of the Mini at $3k. Behringer is your typical dealer that tries to sell junk to junkies. The only bad thing about this I can see is that the spot where they put the name of the instrument would be better used by another dial or two. Now do other knock-offs in neon blue, yellow and green so I can style my budget Kebu stack. Other than that, this is a great way for people without extra cash to get into analog percussion. Its just shitty business practice.. That may be true, but in principle, it happens all the time in our world, across many industries. Its like watching Fox news! I used to be able to see the Edge on Thomanns website but it looks like it was taken down. Behringer worried about copying too closely or crossing a line? Theyre getting something that ticks the same specs boxes but ultimately. Not sure that the guitar market is a great example to follow, but anyway, same architecture, same concept , same patchbay.not a clone but a serious lack of inspiration and respect , just as the crave. When it comes to versatile percussive sounds that [], Solids is a new sound library for Chromaphone 2 featuring 102 new designed patches by Francis Preve Chromaphone 2 is one of the most versatile percussive Synthesizer plugins on the market. I fucking love Moog, but Im a poor working class person. Who the f*** is interested any more in further endless boring discussions about Behringer versus OEMs, the content of which have been posted time and time again already all over the internet. TimS again. What theyre doing is lowering the barrier for the hobbyist that wants a collection of synths, by making commodity instruments just like you can get a Les Paul for $150. Both oscillators are triggered by a dual 8-step sequencer, one for the pitch and another for the velocity. This is the same thing they did with the Mother-32. Thats a good feature to have, but dont confuse that with real MIDI support. And that wasnt clear enough, so there are video demos of the calibration process that are a half hour long that have tens of thousands of views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrZdzyMyr6I. Behringer mass produced IP synths, sued a couple people and wrote a bit of nonsense online. Different voice chips here Sweet work Behringer! B-word can get excited when they release new products. If Behringer hadnt made their Model D available at the price it is, I wouldnt have that joy. I like the pink paint, Bubharmonicon next? There are enough people who disagree with Behringer's colour choices for multiple companies to have made a business out of it. Edge is a semi-modular analog percussion Synthesizer that is based on the concept of the Moog DFAM (Drum From Another Mother) from 2018. I bought a DFAM used and it didnt have a manual and so I contacted them about buying one. Behringer announces products way before they're ready for mass production. I take issue with the idea that people cant afford something like a Mother-32. You can buy only behringer copy, but you need to understand the implication of what you are doing. I have to admit I like the form factor. Different design Thank you Gearspace.com members for 20 years. bad move on Behris part! Now its time for a well-known drum Synthesizer. Not only that, but implicit in that scenario is that you also now have MIDI control over the sequencer itself -- just by playing notes (or even another sequencer) into it. I own a crave, but just because I have already a matriarch, a dfam, a subharmonicon, a minitaur and a mother 32 Thats my way of supporting moog. It might be a knock off, who knows, but at least its not passing off in this case. Again is up to your heart whether you want to pay a lot for ancient tech. Seems reasonably comprehensive to me for an analogue synth. Im also not sure the fashion industry should be looked to as a model for anything. Is there a demo of this bjunk that even sounds like a DFAM? Would we have to pay duty for products delivered to the UK from them? This comment would make sense IF there were NOT R&D expenses from the moog side. And according to the latest news from today, the Behringer team was once again inspired by the Moog engineers in Asheville. The answer was given by Uli himself since the Keystep situation. They just sent me one, no questions asked. Behringer copies it almost totally only three years later, dont they realize this kind of thing eventually kills innovation? I would truly LOVE to have a MiniMoog Model D, but my impoverished financial state simply wont justify it right now (one day maybe). It's not needed to use MIDI clock. Aww comr one. DFAM: onions, garlic and ginger (all fresh and hand selected for quality) prepared by a great chef and served to you immediately. There are always cheaper alternatives than Moog gear. Since the concept, feature set, parameters, sequencers, etc are the same, we can speak of a DFAM clone here. They may have dropped the item and now I'm not sure if my pre-order is still good or not. I never heard of the Moog DFAM. Point is to make something that is generally usable by many people. Therefor we need others on forums etc to go against their marketing strategies. I cant afford lots of things (including synths, really, despite my ridiculous pile of them). Many of their designs are unaffordable for normal people, but extensive research and craftsmanship have gone into their designs. Also, its gonna break in a couple of years. BS? Did you contact them? I surely wont. The DFAM will invite you to explore and it will quickly reward you for each exploration. no thanks. Something the DFAM isn't natively able to do unless you resort to weird tricks. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. We have sold this over 10.000 times. that you agree to the use of cookies for preferences, statistics and marketing (. Sometimes bruised garlic and burnt butter makes all the difference in a mix/recipe. Based on your previous comments, it seems like youre in denial about Behringers business model. It has midi in/out/thru 5 pin, note number/note on+off, midi over usb, midi clock, sequence transpose via midi and I can convert midi data to CV via the assign output (I use this for extra modulation source ie. Its almost as if someone making a cheap version of something already out there so everyone can have a play is ruining it for all the poeple who shell out for the good stuff. Judging on previous inspired B-products, the DFAM and this BFAM are likely only comparable on a stats page. Jamie, any chance you can get a pre-release Edge sent to @, it's actually quite a nice colour in reality, the work area / face does as is expected, dead easy to get around and all makes sense to me at least, see now design that makes me feel unwell - it looks cool as sin in some weird lofi old school game style, but to use? Im gonna check it out because the price is unbeatable. Unofficially because it was never communicated by Behringer, and because of the 3340 chip. And I doubt the various parameters would be able to be CC controlled. Repetition doesnt really exist.As far as your mind is concerned, nothing happens the same twice, even if in every technical sense, the thing is identical. Amazon is a lot worse from factories, unionization, employee attrition, product monopolies, ripping off third party sellers, Alexa, etc. And people who dont know or dont care can think of their own bottom line. I have their Werkstatt because it was affordable and I wanted to buy into Moog. Is it still available for preorder? Im all for Behringer copying out of production synths and designing their own takes like the Deepmind but Im not alright with them cloning a synth currently in production by the original manufacture. BFAM: onions, garlic and ginger (all bruised and bulk selected for cost) assembled by a finance committee and microwaved at 7-11. I work in pro audio and ~50% of Behringer gear always breaks in a couple of years. For many, the Behringer Edge will be the perfect partner to Crave. Moog has well under 100 employees and is employee-owned; not a big company. None of this about guitars Gibson even clone their own designs and rebrand as epiphone im getting pissed from that wait, ill just buy a dfam and give my money to the company that deserves ot, Tbh every demo Ive seen the dfam just sounds so much more aggressive, maybe the edge has just had shit demos but honestly I hope the DFAM stands up on its own Ive refused to buy Behringer so far and I would love to keep it that way. not that they aimed for doing something new and creative in the first place . I dont know why everyone is so uptight about The Edge. If you use these, you support the website. Moog would command more respect if they came down out of the ivory tower and offered musicians gear they could use at an affordable price. How so? Gimme one good reason why their scames (sic) should be allowed to the market in the first place?. Every analog synth I have with trim pots makes them easily accessible, because analog designers get that analog synths sometimes need to be trimmed to be in tune. Mini? This whole support the originator argument only works if the originator stands by their sales. The Behringer Edge is priced at $219 USD. I bought a Behringer D and was impressed initially, because they did a pretty good job of cloning the synth circuits. You can program each sequencer with 8 knobs and select whether the oscillator responds to pitch or not.On the top, you have a 1510 matrix where you can patch your sounds or integrate them into any Eurorack synth setup. Cheaper, clearer panel, same fun without woke culture under the line means better. And that, surely, is what its about. And everyday, there are similar designs being offered at megastores for the fraction of the price with changes just small enough to make a tiny difference, but clearly aiming at potential customers of much more expensive products. The Edge is a direct copy of the DFAM, in Crave form factor. i guess every synth can be possibly patched in eurorack . Quite a sad day. When I buy from a cheap brand and fail to get support, its of course disappointing but I knew that was a risk. To help you further with information on Behringer products, you will find also product descriptions 76218 media, tests and opinions about Behringer products - amongst them the following 6011 product images, 354 different 360 panoramic views, 532 sound samples, 69022 costumers' product reviews and 299 test reports from magazines (in different languages). And companies like Moog and Sequential arent scamming people theyre creating original designs and trying to make enough money doing it to avoid the fate that killed them off in the 70s. Theres pink and white noise, a decay envelope, a filter with high and low pass modes, and its own Decay and Envelope amount. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Me. It doesnt stay in one place. I have nothing against behringer strategy of remaking old synths that are out of production (and probably patent). I bought a Moog product. Dongleboob youre reading things into what I wrote, instead of reading what I wrote. That you can still get in music shops worldwide. However, I do feel I couldve more value out of something else. Will it respond to MIDI note numbers in a standard chromatic fashion like most other mono synth modules? But, if your just dipping your toes into synths why not buy a Behringer? Not only that, but implicit in that scenario is that you also now have MIDI control over the sequencer itself -- just by playing notes (or even another sequencer) into it. Everything is a clone or derivative of something else. Hey, Im just relaying what Edna told me. I greatly appreciate companies releasing affordable, budget hardware, but theres tons of cheap kit that isnt a cheap chinese knockoff of a currently made product. Behringer is making synths for hobbyist that wants a collection of synths, vs synthesists and players. They added MIDI sync for the tempo (a useful change) and removed Eurorack compatibility to cut costs (a really unfortunate change). Which makes it on-brand for Behringer, I guess. Behringer is the Amazon of Music gear. Create something years behind competitors, completely derivative of an existing product, slap a coat of paint on it and call it the Edge. Exactly this. As for impacting Moog, I think they will be just fine. I am curious to see these bills in order to underline how these people care about family businesses and supporting innovation. But there defintely were, and a lot. I dont see that as a bad thing (other than some of Behringers sleazy business practices). But copying stuff that is brand new (2-4 years) and still under production, thats a totally different thing. i dont rly get the move to knock off the DFAM, mostly because the DFAM sounds straight up dogshit. Maybe my experience was atypical, but like I said it was more than once. Surely, it does not sound exactly like a Moog. Flat by comparison. rip off the subharmonicon and call it lord. dont fail me. Neutron is one, deepmind another. For many buyers of equipment, the transactions are simple purchases, and not investments. Moog makes a new, experimental synth. When I check the website I don't see an expected shipping date. If Moog doesnt care about me, why should I care about them? I looked it up online. Its not like the DFAM is a generic design from 40 years ago. This one seems ace, just maybe not the colour sceheme I would have picked! Music Group was founded in 1989 by Uli Behringer. Thanks!, Edge, Behringer takes over the analog percussive Synthesizer concept of the Moog DFAM, adds MIDI+ USB and packs it in a pink Crave-like enclosure.. If this is okay for you, simply click on "Alrighty!" But one thing is different, the connectivity. Behringer says that the Edge offers comprehensive MIDI implementation. You dont directly support Moog, when you buy Moog synthesizers 2nd hand. I will buy an Edge before I buy a DFAM, And my conscience will be clear. Looking forward to seeing it done. What will be the use for selectable MIDI channels on the Edge? I think there is a healthy market for this entry level because I believe that someone who cares about music might start off buying a Behringer product but will then move on to other manufacturers. Im not new to synths, just new to witnessing the discussion and bedroom snobbery it contains. Thats BS. The RD-9 ended up being fairly original for a 909 knockoff, so Id give them credit for that, too. Pink noise If they made an subharmoniconn, okay, but a DFAM, while it sounds great, is like i said just a prewired patch in a box. One of the reason []. Use two B960's for three more modulations: White Noise level, VCF MOD, and FM AMT. I suspect that it is more likely to be note, they would have to be converting midi to cv to do that or implement not far off patch memory to have digital control over values such as filter. Good. Hey you must be a friend of Andrew Stevensons! I would not believe for a single second, that they act the same way when it comes to cars, furniture and even food. So he got a great value with it, and its definitely worth $400 to me. Your perception is constantly shifting. B-word COULD innovate and develop new and useful products. Our Professional Behringer defender. What was once elitist is now in the hands of many. I genuinely think the price of most Moog stuff is out of reach for a lot of people.. So point not taken, sorry. The Edge is a semi-modular percussion synth. Besides the main brand Behringer the following brands belong as well to the company tc electronic, Klark Teknik, Midas, TC-Helicon as well as Bugera. Thats what people want from them a cheap Minimoog, a cheap DFAM, a cheap Prophet, etc and theyre good at it because theyve been making cheap knockoffs of mixers, pedals, monitors, etc for 30 years. The fact that Behringer made an obviously noob screw up like that with the D makes me wonder what they screwed up that isnt obvious. Ive owned synths since the 90s (yes Im a geezer), so when I bought a Behringer D it was quickly obvious where Behringer cut corners. But honestly I am still wating for the Behringer VCS3 ! I have dozens of examples. This is a big reason why Behringer gear is cheap they dont have to invest in research and design, and they dont have to design and develop gear that might not be popular. Thats 4 times the price. The current top seller is Behringer X32 Compact an all time favourite among Behringer products is the following item Behringer X32 Rack. Yeesh. And theyre not interested in making anything innovative that more serious synthesists would want.

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